Posts by man in black

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The anger returns

by mamalove in

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i have not logged in here in a while.

seemed i was able to subdue my anger and smash all of the past behind me for a while.

it has bubbled back to the top..... i can't complain, life is good.

man in black

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have a

about the good times.

to us here

realize that we are here to help you

listen to some good

pet your

watch a good

Oh, and don't forget to get plenty of so that you feel better !

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What's The Worst Thing About Being A Witness?

by minimus in

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for me, a jehovah's witness does not have a real life!

jw's are like trained soldiers.

they could be fervent or lax or happy or unhappy in their role but they are trained to drone on like stepford wives.. what an utter waste of an existence being a jehovah's witness!.

man in black

reading all of these comments really lets me see how utterly pointless this religion makes people feel.

My comment is how embarrassed this religion made me feel while growing up, and how terrible I felt because of feeling that way.

I would get just SO embarrassed when religion came up in a conversation. i would sweat bullets just hoping that the subject would change,

or better yet, hoping that the earth would open up and swallow me right there.

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JW directives you thought were downright stupid

by fallen_princess in

i remember one time when i was about 17 years old, i wanted to arrange a costume party for the young brothers in the congo around my age.

i suggested it to one of my friends and was told that the elders had advised against it because it could be construed as pagan and masks have their roots in demonism.

of course, i was never shown any biblical proof of this but just that response took the wind out of my sails and i decided to just not go through with it.

man in black

Matthew 23:24 if I remember right said something about straining out the gnat and swallowing the camel.

Really applies to these comments !

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I'm spiritually refreshed, can I borrow $ 7,000 ?

by man in black in

we know an out of state couple, (early 40's) who have been jw's for most of their lives.

i'll call them dave and kathy.. when they got married 15 years ago, kathy was a hard worker who did this religion mainly to keep her parents happy ( dad was the po).. dave was starting his own business, he never held a real job in his life, and he was pretty zealous for the jw way of life.. over the years they had their ups and downs, but around 5 years ago they both stopped attending the meetings, and were doing a textbook "fade".

we would hear from them about every 2-3 months, and his business seemed to be doing well, kathy was a stay at home wife who worked pt at home doing computer work.

man in black

We know an out of state couple, (early 40's) who have been jw's for most of their lives. I'll call them Dave and Kathy.

When they got married 15 years ago, kathy was a hard worker who did this religion mainly to keep her parents happy ( Dad was the PO).

Dave was starting his own business, he never held a real job in his life, and he was pretty zealous for the jw way of life.

Over the years they had their ups and downs, but around 5 years ago they both stopped attending the meetings, and were doing a textbook "fade". We would hear from them about every 2-3 months, and his business seemed to be doing well, Kathy was a stay at home wife who worked pt at home doing computer work. Two years ago they had an opportunity to buy an older house but because he was self-employed they were having trouble with the mortgage. It was some kind of a special deal, the owner was an older lady who wanted to sell the house, and since Dave and Kathy were starting out, she did them a favor. So my wife and I sent them $500 to help them get the house. Dave was extremely thankful, saying that he would pay us back as soon as everything was completed and his business picked up. (Never saw a penny of that money),,

Two years later, ( we hardly heard from them during this time,) Dave calls my wife out of the blue last night saying, " I have some good news, and some bad news". OK, start with the bad..... It seems that he has not paid his mortgage in 9 months, and the owners family is going to evict them next week. He needs $7000.00 to get everything current.

My wife was speechless, she told him no, we could not spare that kind of money ( no doubt we would never see it again)! And after prodding her for 20 minutes he finally gave up and said " well, here is the good news". It seems that he has returned to the kingdom hall, and has signed up for the theocratic school. He said that the brother he is studying with told him that " because you (Dave) have started to put jeh. first in your life again, satan is working double-time to discourage you. Just keep attending meetings, and putting god first and everything will work out"

My first reaction after hearing this was,, why not get a JOB and take responsibility for your own debt, instead of taking the easy jw way out..

And to top it off, his wife Kathy is considering leaving him because of all this nonsense. And the way I see it, she will be the bad person because she does not go to meetings. So because of not putting god first as the wt states, she will be punished .

By returning to the wt, he will not feel obligated to handle his own self-made problems. And what kind of a man calls a woman ( my wife, he knows both of us together) and asks for $7000, why not call me ?

To me this seems like an unrealistic situation all around, and it is made worse because of the jw "put the kingdom first" mentality.

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Update: I got the shun at my dad's funeral- the best outcome really!!

by Coffee House Girl in

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hello all jwn .

so glad to have that over with- it was surreal to walk in the kh after two years...it is just a building to me now (not "jehovah's house").

i must say that now i'm on the outside...what a boring sad building- the people were not joyful and friendly (just older and fatter than i remember)- i got the nervous stares and shaky "hi" when i looked at all of them and said hello.. my mom was sitting all by herself in the front row of the hall...i went and sat by her side.

man in black

Hi There, I'm sorry about your Dad, and that you had to deal with this ridiculous behavior .

But, stay on the high road, do what you believe your Father would have wanted done.

When the dust clears,the witnesses are no doubt expecting you to come crawling back to the kh but by following your own

heart they will be surprised ( and confused) to see that you are a happy and stronger individual.

By the way, (I'm sorry if this is out of line) could you post the poem that you like, and the jw's did not ?

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Approached at the bus stop

by noni1974 in

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i was minding my own business this morning and up walks and elder wanting to give me an invatation to the dc.

i said no thanks i don't go to cult meetings anymore.

he looked at me like i had 3 heads turned and walked as fast as he could away from me.

man in black

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OMG shunning story

by man in black in

my wife and i went to fedex / kinko's this afternoon and ran into a girl who was df'ed several years ago, (her parents are quite the rabid jw's.).

they have two daughters, and the younger one recently got married at the kh.. the older one who we were talking to proceeded to tell us that she decided to attend her younger sisters wedding ceremony which was fine despite the fact that nobody talked to her.. but after the wedding she was basically ushered out of the hall.

she was not allowed to participate in any pictures, or allowed to speak to the new couple.

man in black

My wife and I went to FedEx / Kinko's this afternoon and ran into a girl who was df'ed several years ago, (her parents are quite the rabid jw's.)

They have two daughters, and the younger one recently got married at the kh.

The older one who we were talking to proceeded to tell us that she decided to attend her younger sisters wedding ceremony which was fine despite the fact that nobody talked to her.

But after the wedding she was basically ushered out of the hall. She was not allowed to participate in any pictures, or allowed to speak to the new couple. She was not allowed to attend the reception either.

I know,,,,, this subject has been discussed thousands of times on this forum, but actually hearing it from a young girl, who is working, and supporting herself is astounding. Her only crime is that she does not want to be one of jehovahs witnesses.

How in the HE (double hockey sticks) is this supposed to encourage this girl to come back into the religion ? Unbelievable !

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Watchtower and Pets a Picture

by Marvin Shilmer in

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watchtower and pets a picture.

watchtower and pets, an illustration that caused lots of heartache: http://marvinshilmer.blogspot.com/2011/07/watchtower-pets.html.

marvin shilmer.

man in black

when I left the jw's I trained my Australian Shephard to be a therapy dog. She has her own nametag, and access to area's of the hospital that I can only get to if she is with me.

One time, we were waiting to get on the elevator on a Sunday afternoon. Suddenly there was a child just screaming bloody murder from the ER.

My dog is not allowed into this dept. but one of the nurses had seen us walking earlier and she came running out of the ER, she grabbed my shoulder and litterally pulled me down the hall. I told her that we cannot go into the ER, but she said "don't worry, your dog is needed NOW"!

When we got in, there was a little boy around 3-4 years old lying on a stretcher, his face all black and blue and his head was in some kind of a vice-like thing ( so he couldn't move his neck I guess). When I picked my dog up, and he saw her the crying just stopped,after petting her for a minute or two he started smiling and giggling.

Then we visited several cancer patients upstairs who really enjoyed my dog.

Afterwards we strolled back into the ER to see how the boy was doing, but he was sound asleep, his Mother who was totally exhausted just looked at me and smiled.

That was a really powerful example to me showing how important animals can be. Perhaps if the wt powers that be actually looked outside their little compound they might see how wrong they are with their directives.

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